I’m so sorry this is a day late – I was basically working or doing yoga or getting laundry on the line all day yesterday and there was no time to put this together. I hope I’m forgiven. At least I got outside, unlike good old Carel …
So today we round up discussions on “The Time of the Angels” so far and then look ahead to “The Nice and the Good”. I’m really excited about this month’s read – this is what I consider a ‘classic’ Murdoch with its group of disparate characters all clustered around one couple and all linked through loves and relationships old and new. We might even need to draw a diagram!
“The Time of the Angels”
We had a really good discussion over on the review for this novel, looking at the writer of the introduction’s assertion that it would have been different if Carel had got out more and examining how frightening it is. I have to say I’m not quite as alarmed by it as when I first read it as a mid-teen, but it’s still very unsettling.
Jo has submitted an excellent, full review on Goodreads and the discussion on my review also gave her some food for thought. Buried in Print has shared a review here. I will share links to any more Goodreads and other blog post reviews here in time.
In cover-sharing, David Mahon contributed this US first edition from Viking Press (1966) which came with a library card in it.
Peter Rivenberg’s 1975 Penguin cover is as disturbing as it should be
Buried in Print contributed a very subdued Penguin version
and Maria Peacock has the Vintage Classic before mine, complete with angel (the detail on the front is from Annunciatory Angel by Fra Angelico) and Maria mentioned that IM might have something to say about the hair!
This has the same blurb as my red-spined one.
If you have comments to make or links to blog posts or Goodreads reviews to post, you can put them here or (better still) on the review.
“The Nice and the Good”
And now we move on to an early favourite of mine (sorry about the terrible photograph, but my first edition is covered in a thin plastic that will not stop picking up lights). Again, I felt terribly sophisticated reading it in my mid-teens: it’s got a thriller aspect, a group of intellectuals and misfits in a sort of commune, a cat and a dog, an exciting scene of peril …
Here’s the blurb from my first edition:
I really like the reference to Midsummer Night’s Dream and mention of the duality of locations and think this sums the book up very well.
My Penguin is the 1986 edition, bought presumably in my first flush of IM discovery, and has this to say:
“No one in the book is good” – hm. One to discuss later. It IS a feast, however – well done, The Guardian.
And my Vintage Classic, well, I don’t think it has much to say about the book, actually, although it does spell out Octavian and John’s relationship.
But a quote from John Betjeman – that was a surprise.
Are you going to be reading or re-reading “The Nice and the Good” along with me? Are you catching up with the others or have you given up)? What’s your favourite so far? Your least favourite?
You will find a page listing all of these blog posts here, updated as I go along.
Sep 01, 2018 @ 17:05:54
I’m going to start The Nice and the Good later today 🙂
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Sep 01, 2018 @ 17:33:35
Wonderful – you’ll be ahead of me, then. It’s SUCH a good one.
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Sep 01, 2018 @ 17:36:31
I don’t like having to read too much in one go, so if I parcel it out over the whole of September (alongside lots of other reads), I think I only have to read 10-15 pages a day. Glad to hear it’s a favourite.
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Sep 01, 2018 @ 18:06:36
Oh, interesting, it’s got thriller elements and some very exciting scenes, so I wonder if you’ll manage to restrain yourself! I can’t wait to get started on it!
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Sep 03, 2018 @ 07:56:34
Almost finished with my first read of The Nice and the Good. I am loving the emotional richness of this book and the twists at the end of each chapter!
Have a first, first U.S edition, which has an interesting jacket with a playbill of the cast of characters!
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Sep 03, 2018 @ 08:36:56
Oh lovely, glad you’re enjoying it and that was quick (I have to admit I just finished the last of my 20 Books of Summer and am tempted to dive straight in). Would you be able to send a photo of your jacket to me at liz AT libroediting DOT com for inclusion in the round-up post this month, as it sounds fab?
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Sep 06, 2018 @ 20:08:21
The Nice and the Good is such a wonderful antidote to The Time of the Angels – so good to exchange the foggy bleakness of the condemned London rectory,under the control of the horrible Carel, for the sunshine and light of the Dorset coast with life-affirming Kate in charge together with a sophisticated and rather decadent London scene with its urbane civil servants.
This is one to enjoy – both as a Shakespearian style comedy and as a great whodunnit. I look forward to reading the reviews..
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Sep 10, 2018 @ 07:02:54
Fabulous – glad you’ve enjoyed it! I’m starting it today so there should be a review to comment on relatively soon. It is a lovely one, isn’t it, and a really refreshing one after Time of the Angels, even with the dark topics!
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Sep 08, 2018 @ 13:20:14
For the very first time I will be reading the book you’re reading at the same time as you are reading it!!
I’ve just started TNATG – with the chaotic, cast of thousands, extended family life unfolding, I’m reminded of Cold Comfort Farm or Diary of a Provincial Lady so far.
Still not sure if IM actually likes people very much though!
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Sep 10, 2018 @ 07:03:48
Great news – in fact, you’re ahead of me right now! I’m glad you’re seeming to be enjoying it. I sometimes end up writing the characters down or doing a diagram. I think she observes people and approves of some … likes animals, though!
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Sep 13, 2018 @ 12:41:33
Yes, that’s an apt description. IM seems like a scientist observing an alien species.
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Sep 11, 2018 @ 17:13:06
Yes, when you start an Iris Murdoch all these diverse people with forgettable names rise up in front of you. She does introduce them too you but it is a lot to take in when you are feeling your way into a new novel.
I usually find it is helpful like Liz to do a family tree type of plan to get the characters sorted out in my head. It gives me something to refer to as the plot develops, but it does sometimes get complicated, and I run out of space on the page trying to include all the connections between the characters.. (The Red and the Green was a particular challenge).
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Sep 12, 2018 @ 06:55:08
It looks like last time round, I only started doing this with A Fairly Honourable Defeat but it is useful to do!
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