It’s time for us to talk about “The Green Knight” – this was always one of my favourites and happily remains one. I bought my paperback copy on 19 Jan 1995, so presumably not long after it came out, and I presume this was my fourth reading of it. Although I felt a bit of confusion around who exactly was reading the John Cowper Powys novel that’s mentioned, I don’t see any lessening of IM’s powers here and it’s a great read with some memorable characters – and, like “The Philosopher’s Pupil”, some scenes narrated by a dog. I read it in my original Penguin paperback as there’s no fancy new Vintage edition; this proved to be useful as I could bung it in my holiday suitcase without worrying, as it has the rings of multiple cuppas on it!
If you’re doing the readalong or even selected books along with me, or of course some time afterwards, do share how you’re getting on and which have been your favourites so far.
Iris Murdoch – “The Green Knight”
(18 January 1995)
Loosely based around the Arthurian legend of Gawain and the Green Knight (it’s almost a shame when Clement realises this and spells it out), we come in in the middle and go back to the beginning, having learned that Lucas Graffe has unintentionally killed a man, then going back to the scene, witnessed by his brother (by adoption) Clement. When a man returns and claims to have returned from the dead and now to want retribution, Clement and Lucas have to work out what to do. Is there a miracle? Is there a saint? There’s certainly a big fancy party and lots of rather strange goings on. And alI the while, Louise is waiting for her three daughters to find their fates and leave her, while other characters move between various handy flats and think about religion. I think his book revolves around whether people are who they say they are and counters of retribution, injury and fate. There are two brothers and three sisters, related folks and their offspring in one of those courts that exist in IM’s novels, plus a seeker of truth and religion and his self-created guru. So lots of classic Murdochian stuff.
Lots of pairings and oppositions exist, from Aleph and Sefton the intellectuals versus Moy, the arty, fey sister through Lucas the sneering professor and Clement the people-pleasing actor to Louise the good mother (and girl) and Joan the bad mother (and girl). There are innumerable fatherless people, including Bellamy, who loses his spiritual father. Louise and Clement meet originally in an empty theatre and then their pivotal encounter occurs in another one. Clement, Anax and Bellamy all fall asleep in cars. Clement faints in his sleep and then when Mir challenges Lucas. Bellamy loses his faith and so does Father Damien, although Mir regains his Buddhist faith. Of course the plot includes double encounters for the Graffes and Mir.
Water exists in terms of tears, fog, and rain, and also the sea at the cottage everyone thinks Bellamy is going to give up. Stones are mainly concentrated around Moy. She also makes masks, a small theme which crops up in almost every novel. London is a strong character with lots of different routes taken and described in detail so you could map them. Harvey and Joan provide hyacinthine curls and red tresses, and Moy cuts off her plait as she matures into her next stage in life.
Characters are divided into those who open windows and those who don’t, and now I feel the need to check the whole of Murdoch to find out if this was a theme I’d not noticed in the rest of the novels.
We have a man waiting outside houses looking in, in this case Peter Mir and various houses, and he’s seen by people looking out. Bellamy chases Mir through the wet streets, providing that common aspect of the novels. Harvey watches outside Lucas’ door and thinks he sees his mother, echoing a similar scene in most.
There is humour in the book – some savage irony e.g. Harvey damaging himself at the end of his ordeal, not during it, but also some funny moments, as when Clement puts on a pompous voice to give his speech which reminds him of the one people put on to play Polonius. The pub landlord is also amusingly very Australian.
Who is our saint? I rather think it is Louise. She is described as leading a life which
even after its great catastrophe, was quiet and calm, a sensible rational life, a decent satisfactory cheerful life, as presaged by her kindly gentle parents and her orderly high-minded school. (p. 3)
and she has a classic IM saint characteristic, there in the books since at least “An Unofficial Rose”:
… her kindness, the way in which … she instinctively made things better, speaking no evil, disarming hostility, turning ill away making peace: her gentleness which made her seem, sometimes, to some people, weak, insipid, dull. ‘She’s not exactly a strong drink!’ someone said. So secretly did she work in her courtesy. (pp. 64-65)
Clement craves her company, “to get a whiff of ordinary good life” and she absorbs his and Harvey’s emotions while not interfering in her daughters’ lives (although she humanly wonders if she should have).
She says Clement wants to suffer for Lucas, but in fact Peter “dies” “for” him and not only once. But I’m not sure Peter is a saint, as he seems to enchant and live in enchantment, and he’s “other” to the characters and their world, like an “alien”. Bellamy is described by Clement as a muddler, which is another saintly attribute, but that doesn’t really go anywhere. Emil exhorts him to “attain your open busy life, helping other people. Why not have innocent happiness as well?” (p. 426) and I feel like Emil echoes N from “The Philosopher’s Pupil” helping others behind the scenes while remaining unencumbered.
Who is the enchanter? Lucas has certainly been created as that by at least Aleph, Sefton and Clement, Harvey, who is “fascinated” by him, and perhaps Peter. It feels in a way that everyone’s been looking for Mir to appear in their lives, but he’s very much a paper tiger or a voice behind a curtain. Is it just that everyone’s seeking something to believe in and control them.
In relationships to other books, of which I found many, as you’d expect near to the end of our project, the girls’ tears might recall the Tears of Blood of Moy’s children in The Sandcastle, who cry at will. Moy’s ducking in the sea recalls the weir scene in “Nuns and Soldiers” and the near-drownings in “The Nice and the Good” et al. The seals at the end which give Moy and Bellamy enlightenment echo Charles Arrowby’s in “The Sea, The Sea”. Moy’s telekenesis links to other novels with supernatural elements – “The Nice and the Good” with the UFOs and “The Philosopher’s Pupil”. The standing stone Moy returns the smaller stone to recalls the stone in “The Message to the Planet” and the lingam stone in “The Good Apprentice”. Anax missing Clement in the park recalls various missed encounters, including in “A Word Child”. The various ordeals gone through by the characters recall again the weir scene in “Nuns and Soldiers”. Tessa’s left-wing writing and women’s refuges reflect various other women who do good on the margins in several other novels. Clement watches Louise sewing and, although he doesn’t say so, we know he likes to. Thus she joins the ranks of Murdochian women observed with a needle and thread. Clement dreams of playing Hamlet, taking us back to “The Black Prince”. The broken telephone, fizzing away, recalls a litany of broken telephones from “The Black Prince” through “The Book and the Brotherhood” and elsewhere. Is the empty, small, steeply raked theatre where they meet Sadie’s theatre from “Under the Net”? I’d love to think so. Going back to this novel, in Clement’s car dream, the darkness is like “lots of knitted steel nets” (p.84). The hospital recalls the one in “The Message to the Planet” and Bellamy is described as a “seeker” which links it, too – maybe this novel is ‘about’ an inmate come out, whereas the previous novel is about being an inmate?
I don’t think my reading of this one has changed that much, although I took note of Louise and her reality a bit more and was less forgiving of the machinations of the younger characters, perhaps. I had forgotten some key outcomes while remembering little details like Moy’s plait.
Please either place your review in the comments, discuss mine or others’, or post a link to your review if you’ve posted it on your own blog, Goodreads, etc. I’d love to know how you’ve got on with this book and if you read it having read others of Murdoch’s novels or this was a reread, I’d love to hear your specific thoughts on those aspects, as well as if it’s your first one!
If you’re catching up or looking at the project as a whole, do take a look at the project page, where I list all the blog posts so far.
Nov 25, 2019 @ 15:49:32
I can’t believe haven’t read anything b her, and this sounds really good! Thanks for your review
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Nov 25, 2019 @ 20:40:33
Well, she’s my favourite author so I’m going to recommend this one, The Bell or The Sea, The Sea to you!
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Dec 01, 2020 @ 04:23:25
I thought this was an excellent and illuminating review, very enjoyable to read.
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Dec 01, 2020 @ 06:27:00
Thank you, Alison!
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Nov 25, 2019 @ 20:13:05
I suspect this might be out of my league at the moment given that I’ve only just conquered my nervousness about reading IM with her debut novel, Under the Net. Nevertheless,it’s fascinating to see your take on a late-period Murdoch. The canine narrator (albeit in certain scenes) sounds very interesting. I’m rather intrigued!
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Nov 25, 2019 @ 20:39:52
I actually don’t think it would be out of your league – it’s not one of her “Baggy Monsters” and doesn’t have too many wodges of philosophy in it. I’d give it a go if it intrigues you – why not?!
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Nov 25, 2019 @ 21:10:57
Another successful read for me Liz and up there with The Book and the Brotherhood for these later reads. I suspect all the wonderful female characters had a lot to do with this but I also loved Peter, Bellamy and Clement as well as Erik who I didn’t mention in my review but played a great minor part in the book.
I felt for Moy and found the whole Swan episode strangely sad as well as the loss of Anax whose voice I very much enjoyed reading. In fact possibly the only character I didn’t feel for in some way was Lucas who right up to the end of the novel is a shadowy, dark figure whose strange attraction I can’t really fathom.
Peter too is still a bit of an enigma by the end and he and Lucas do seem to have an odd connection, one dark one light -which made me wonder are Clement or Bellamy the middle ground between the two? They certainly seem to oscillate between them. I liked what you said about Peter being ‘other’ as he very much seems like a magical figure who sweeps in, shakes everything up and then leaves.
I appreciated the array of female characters from nun to seductress, wise older women to young girls about to step into life although the young often seemed wise beyond their years and the old unsure of themselves. I wasn’t entirely convinced by the relationship between Sefton and Harvey but then I never do well with romance.
Although I didn’t think it was especially funny I did find the correspondence between Bellamy and Father Damien quite amusing and the more I read about the loss of faith in so many of Murdoch’s novels, the more I’m interested in what her own religious faith or was not over her lifetime.
I managed to spot many of the connections you mentioned but there were so many I also missed, I guess future rereads will assist in that 😉 and I’m very much looking forward to reading what others have to say about this one.
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/3062042946?book_show_action=false
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Nov 26, 2019 @ 08:00:33
I love this review and your Goodreads one with its emphasis on the myth and feyness, pulling out great quotes. I’m also thrilled that you are looking forward to re-reading the books at some stage! Remember I’ve read all the books at least four times now so it’s easier to see the connections when you’ve been kind of immersed in them all your adult life! I hope you’ll continue to read and comment on the blog in general once we’ve done Jackson’s Dilemma, as I’d hate to say goodbye!
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Nov 30, 2019 @ 02:54:08
This book has always been a favorite of mine and on my third reading I find it even more enjoyable.
I think this time I was more than usually charmed by the adolescents, perhaps because I am older and feel inclined to help them, much like the older characters in the novel. Joan (one of the crankier but nevertheless amusing older characters with whom I can now almost relate) mentions at one point that she wishes someone would break through the enchantment of Louise’s three daughters. But if they are enchanted, I think it is because they have created their own little world from which it is difficult to emerge. This seems to be rather different from other young “sleeping princesses,” who are dominated and sometimes physically restrained by a male and/or female power figure in Murdoch’s novels. (I think first of Jesse’s daughter’s Bettina and Ilona from The Good Apprentice, who operate in the shadow of two strong parental figures and who seem to partake of their parents’ darkness). I like Liz’s insight that Louise has many of the characteristics of a Murdoch “saint,” and wonder if her relative comfort with a looser household structure accounts for the lighter and freer feel of these young women, who unlike Jesse’s daughters, operate fairly independently in a world of comforting social relationships. That is not to say they are immune to the power of authority figures and we learn that all three of them (as well as many of the adult characters) have a least some level of fixation on Lucas, the darkest character in the novel.
I agree with Jo that it’s hard to fathom his attraction, just as it is difficult for me to understand why so many Ennistonians are obsessed with George in The Philosopher’s Pupil. Both men are potentially violent and capable of murder, though whether they would in fact murder someone is ambiguous. At the beginning of The Philosopher’s Pupil, George thinks he may have murdered his wife, but he isn’t sure. In Green Knight, Lucas’s failure to murder Clement raises the question of whether he would have gone through with it. The books have other parallels. Both men participate in a kind of ritual reenactment of the supposed murder designed to restore memory, though with different results. And in both there is a kind of struggle between two power figures: George and Rozanov in PP, and Lucas and Peter Mir (another Russian name) in GK. But whereas Rozanov is a power figure in decline, Peter Mir is almost always described as brimming with health. He is the green man, the green knight, restoring the world. At least for a while.
It is also interesting that in both these books (and some others), the rescue of dogs serves to restore human relationships. Peter’s rescue of Anax leads him back to the family unit at Clifton; George’s rescue of Zed brings him, at least temporarily, into a happier relationship with his family. In Nuns and Soldiers Tim’s rescue of a dog leads him back to Gertrude; and even as far back as Under the Net, Jake’s rescue of Mars results in his finding Hugo.
I tend to agree with Jo that I’m not entirely convinced by Sefton and Harvey, and I think we may be encouraged to question any of the decisions the sisters (or perhaps other characters) make as the novel nears its end.
On my third reading, this novel remains a delight and it seemed to me particularly cinematic with great visual descriptions, multiple ironies, and wonderful suspense.
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Nov 30, 2019 @ 06:14:47
Thank you for another lovely review and I particularly like the parallels you draw with Philosopher’s Pupil and your discovery of “the rescue of dogs” as a sub-theme in IM’s work. I was glad I still really liked this one, such a late one but still a classic IM.
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Nov 30, 2019 @ 11:11:19
I agree with Liz, Peter, I loved the comparisons you made with George and your insights into the rescuing of dogs being a catalyst in the novels. Your mention of Jake and Mars has made me realize how little I remember of that one so perhaps the first place to start for a reread.
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Nov 30, 2019 @ 13:54:23
Might as well start from the beginning and go through again! I do it once a decade, I’ve realised!
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Nov 30, 2019 @ 23:01:00
Jo- I think you’ll have a great time rereading it. I got so much more out of it the second time around.
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Dec 02, 2019 @ 19:36:12
Maria has contributed her comment via email as she had trouble posting (I’m so sorry about that, Maria!). Here it is:
I am sorry, I did not meet the deadline again especially as this is one of my favourite Iris Murdoch novels and I am intrigued and fascinated by the Green Knight myth.
As usual Liz finds wonderful links and details, and she brings her long experience of reading and re-reading Iris Murdoch. But it is always good to read other people’s response to the novels, especially those who are coming to them for the first time.
Jo, I really liked your Readalong and, also, your Goodreads review which I think made a complex novel very accessible. I found your image of Lucas and Mir in opposition pitched against each other interesting – like Tallis and Julius in A Fairly Honourable Defeat, who faced each other like Christ and Satan.
Peter Mir is an enigma like Marcus Vallar in The Message to the Planet, in that he seems to hover on the threshold between the human and the non-human/spiritual world. He seems to have come from another place– Lucas and Clement debate whether he has died or had a near-death experience and Lucas says ‘he’s only half alive, a zombie’. It may be of course that this is caused by his neurological trauma of being hit on the head. But he is also a shifting and rather romantic presence. Louise and her daughters speculate whether he is Mr Pickwick, Prospero, the Green Knight, Metistopheles or the Minataur. We only see him through other characters and we have no insight into his inner life. In some ways he is like the pagan Green Man, and at the scene of the attack, and the strange trees are very present – Clement reflects ‘The trees too had seen what had happened. They were old and had seen too much’ P.279. When Mir appears to be struck by lightning and looks as if he is burning and turns into a pillar of light, he falls like a tree. This time of reading the later novels I am struck by the strong environmental context – Lucas says ‘our planet is a freak which we will destroy by our own wicked senseless activities in the next century’ p.254. There is a feeling of wholeness with the non-human world which is represented in the significance of the stones and the various powers of water to renew and to destroy.
The Green Knight is one of my favourite of Iris Murdoch’s novels, and although there are resonances of Iris Murdoch’s other fiction, I feel it stands alone. I agree with Liz although this was written late in Iris Murdoch’s creative life, there are no signs that her powers were failing. She does a lot more in this novel than just re-writing the Green Knight story and setting it in late twentieth-century North London. She takes from the Green Knight the themes of truth, justice and how retribution can be made in a merciful way, and creates a different way of looking at how to forgive and what justice can be. The chapter titles of ‘Ideal Children’, ‘Justice’, ‘Mercy’, ‘Eros’ and ‘They Reach the Sea’ tells us that the novel is fairy-tale, allegory and a realistic story, and it can be read and re-read as any or all of these.
As always Iris Murdoch’s characters are looking for a way to live in a world without God. I like Liz’s image of Murdoch characters moving between various handy flats thinking about religion. We have yet another ‘good priest’ with a crisis of faith who leaves the church, and Bellamy as a disciple is looking for God but realises that the only way to find God is in the soul – there are echoes of Cato and Father Brendan in Henry and Cato and Ann Cavidge’s encounter with Christ in Nuns and Soldiers.
I must admit I do get irritated by the Anderson girls and I find them rather priggish and pretentious , with their madrigals and self- sufficient housekeeping arrangements, but I need to get over it As with a lot of adolescents in Murdoch’s novels I do feel disturbed that their mother has not noticed how odd they are particularly Moy, but perhaps my reaction is a response to current awareness of young peoples’ mental health. I was very pleased when they broke out of the ‘fairy tale’ and were set free to live their own lives in the world.
I found Peter’s observation about the power of dogs and how often in Murdoch novels the rescue of a dog has the effect of bringing people together very thought- provoking. Murdoch does use the voice and the consciousness of dogs so much in her novels, and they represent a total kind of unconditional non-human love.
I remember reading and being absolutely enchanted by The Green Knight when it was first published, loving the beautiful cover, and thinking life was good, and Iris Murdoch would go on writing these wonderful books for ever.
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Dec 02, 2019 @ 19:37:12
What a lovely review, Maria, although so bittersweet at the end. I was surprised at the ecological stuff in more than Message to the Planet this time around. I have found myself getting less patient with the three daughters as re-reads have worn on, too, I have to say!
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Dec 05, 2019 @ 12:50:22
Thank you, Maria, for expanding on the ecological thread in the later works. It’s funny. On my previous read I’d been impatient with the three daughters but on this read I find myself more tolerant. This change may be due to my recent reading of The Good Apprentice, where the daughters seemed more encumbered by myth, more isolated, and in some ways less real to me. I have more hope for these three children, though I think it is rarely a good sign when Murdoch sends anyone to the United States.
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Dec 05, 2019 @ 13:07:38
I think I was intimidated by them when I first read it, being 23 at the time, but now do look on them more fondly. I feel more sorry for and worried by Moy this time around. And I agree about the US – oh-oh!
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Dec 07, 2019 @ 18:06:58
Yes, what a good point, Peter and Liz, about the characters who are tidily dispatched across the Atlantic to the US and I do agree they seem beyond redemption. I am thinking of Hilda, Morgan and Peter in ‘A Fairly Honourable Defeat’ and Daisy in ‘Nuns and Soldiers’. It is as if they no longer belong in Murdochland. I think with the three Anderson girls, they need to find a way out of the enchantment, but I do fear for Moy’s long term mental health.
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Aug 09, 2020 @ 12:31:12
This was my first reading of the book and it has become a great favourite. I agree with Jo that it feels like a late career masterpiece.
So many of Murdoch’s familiar themes and symbols are present; the enchanter, the power of the sea and the danger of drowning, the fascination with Buddhism and Eastern spiritualism, the psychological significance of paintings to individual characters, fog-bound London. Each one a call-back to previous novels.
Even the reappearance of the Apennine bridge at the very end of the novel, which plays such an important role in the first section, read like a narrative looping back on itself, the sense that coming to an end is a return to the beginning.
Some of the sustained narrative passages, like the search for Anax and Moy flowed so beautifully, moving from perspective to perspective with the eloquence of Woolf at the peak of her powers.
I was struck that, unlike so many other of her works, she allows most of her character a happy, or at least a morally contented ending. Even Peter, if we do read him as an angelic figure, has fulfilled his destiny by bringing together everyone else and enabling them to love one another. Moy is saved and, in other example of destiny being fulfilled, returns to the stone to its parent rock.
There are even a few delightfully playful endings, such as the revelation that ‘going with Mr. Hook’ is not a euphemism for suicide or drug addiction, but an actual reuniting with Mr. Humphrey H. Hook.
Speaking of reunification, it was a little jarring to read a reference to the fall of the Berlin Wall, In my mind, all of Murdoch’s novels take place between the elongated, fog-wreathed post-war period of the mid-50s to the mid-70s.
Like LIz, and I’m sure other readers, I found the Anderson girls rather tiresome. More generally the dialogue between the girls and Harvey, especially during the intimate moments, to be rather bizarre.
A final point. I worried at page 60 of the Chatto and Windus hardback that Harvey’s lament of his youthful powers fading, of “something decayed and rotten” was Murdoch fearing, perhaps even prefiguring, the loss of her own powers. As Shakespeare used Prospero in The Tempest. By the end of this novel, those fears were utterly dispelled.
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Aug 23, 2020 @ 16:51:35
Another lovely and perceptive review – thank you so much for sharing it and sorry I’ve replied a bit late! That point about the powers fading does jump out at one nowadays, but I agree that it’s a very good read and full of her usual power. I, too, like that most people get a happy ending. Such a satisfying read.
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